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Did school fail us? How we can learn better as adults

Did school fail us? How we can learn better as adults

One of the things that gives me enormous pleasure in life is learning. I just love learning new things and going down the rabbit hole. The beauty sometimes is that you just don’t know where it will lead you.

It can be while reading a quote in a book, or listening carefully to someone during a conversation; it may even be learning a new word.

It reminds me of an Alan Bennett quote that gives me goosebumps when I read it and the relationship you can have with an author when reading their work:

“The best moments in reading are when you come across something – a thought, a feeling, a way of looking at things – that you’d thought special, particular to you. And here it is, set down by someone else, a person you’ve never met, maybe even someone long dead. And it’s as if a hand has come out, and taken yours.”

I can really relate to this. I just get this satisfying jolt of pleasure when I come across something that I hadn’t really thought about before or when I learn something I previously didn’t know. It can be something that makes you see yourself and the world around you differently.

Now, when I mention learning, you might immediately start thinking about classrooms, whiteboards and teachers droning on.

To be fair, that was my experience of learning at school: a dull classroom with Mr. Cannavan teaching science, where all we did was copy notes from the chalkboard. Incredibly boring. There was no encouragement to think for ourselves, critically analyse or to ask questions. We were just expected to memorise enough to pass tests. 

Then there was English class, where we would have 10-15 minutes of free-reading before the class properly began. 

I wouldn’t read a word. 

The most effort I’d make is pretending to read, making my eyes go from left to right across the page whenever Miss Pridden was looking in my direction.

As you can probably tell, I didn’t enjoy formal education. As a result, I didn’t excel at school. I wasn’t terrible either…a typical straight C student.

The thing is…mainstream schooling isn’t set up to allow us all to achieve our full potential. Listen to this episode of Stories of Men in which Dale Pollit talks about how he achieved his full potential after dropping out of school.

But, rest assured, a commitment to lifelong learning doesn’t need to be a repeat of an uninspiring experience in the classroom. It can be much more rewarding than that.

First of all, unlike when I was at school, I now have carte blanche to learn whatever I want, whenever I want with whoever I want. There are no boundaries, no restrictions….Therefore, learning becomes a way of broadening my mind. If I know something today that I didn’t know yesterday then I have something tangible to show for my daily effort.

Dedicating myself to continuous learning is also proof that I’m able to get outside of the box and develop as a person. Whether that learning is about finance, human nature, philosophy or bird-law is up to me.

The learning I choose provides the opportunity of becoming the person I want to be.

For example, right now I’m single, and, as I look over at my bed, instead of having a partner gazing back at me, I have books on psychology, business, autobiographies of 80’s Manchester musicians, money, ADHD, men and masculinity, podcasts and a number of other topics. The list goes on…

I’m growing in the areas that are of interest to me and they are not determined by the choices or the systems set in place by someone else..

Basically, because I have the freedom to explore my chosen topics, I’ve become an avid reader. And there’s so much more to explore. My journey is never-ending.

So why don’t more of us take the opportunity to expand our mental horizons? 

I think a lot of it comes down to our previous experiences.

Going back to my school days again for a moment, I remember feeling as if I’d been put into a box where I was simply not “academically gifted”. This meant that I was never expected to excel and so it seemed pointless to even try.

It makes me think of the pygmalion effect that I was reading about recently where someone expects a lot from you and therefore your performance increases. My teachers didn’t expect a lot from me and therefore I didn’t massively excel.

What if a teacher put a lot of time, attention and expectation into me and it came from an inspiring place? If that happened to any of us, who knows what we could achieve?!

Here’s another example: My sister, Claire, was in all the bottom sets at school. She was in set 8 out of 8 in maths and she never forgets a teacher saying to her “you’ll never amount to anything in life!”

What a lovely way to inspire the youth to be the best they can be in life and to instil the belief in them to reach for the stars!

Side note, she went to university and is now a nurse high up in the NHS so she metaphorically puts her middle finger up at the teacher quite frequently.

This isn’t a pop at teachers per se as they’re just doing their best in an antiquated system that was built following the industrial revolution. The problem is that time has moved on, we’ve moved on.

It’s as if the education system has knocked the desire and thirst for learning out of us with the exam culture that’s in place. Therefore, when many people leave formal education it’s as if they’ve wiped their hands of learning and they think ‘thank f*ck for that, no more learning to do’.

We’re all bonafide, creative geniuses. 98% of us when we were pre-school children anyway, and that went RIGHT DOWN by the time we hit high school – just 12% of those initial 98%. We’re not educated to learn, we’re educated OUT of learning it seems…

Sir Ken Robinson talks a lot about this in his amazing TED talk.

“We are educating people out of their creative capacities… I believe this passionately, that we don’t grow into creativity, we grow out of it. Or rather, we get educated out of it.” – Ken Robinson.

As I’m writing this, I’m starting to think that I really am bashing our education system…oh well. I still have gratitude for some small aspects of it though.

In a nutshell, the problem with the formal education system is that it is too formal.

I’m an advocate for informal education, where you pursue knowledge not because you need to prepare for a test or follow a curriculum but because you genuinely want to learn.

You’ll find that your attention, retention, engagement levels and all of the other important ways of demonstrating real learning will be activated when you pursue the things you have an actual interest in.

On the topic of learning in a formal vs a more informal environment, listen to James talking about how a move to a strict form of education almost crushed his spirit.

Once you start your learning journey, you won’t want it to stop. You’ll discover all of that potential that was waiting for the moment when you were ready to tap into it.

So go and make today count. 

Go and take the time to learn something new.

Lastly, If you’re already a lifelong learner,what aspect of learning recently was so special to you that it felt as if a hand reached out to take yours? 



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